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OT: Question of the day…. 9/24/06

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9/24/06: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own Laurie :)   Boating or camping? Jackie ~*~Moving at the speed of life, we are bound to collide with each other~*~ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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9/24/06: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own Laurie :) Boating or camping?

Oh, please, please, may I do both?????? kili — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Boating or camping?

Boating, although I enjoyed camping when much younger.  Hubby is a city boy at heart and wouldn’t camp outdoors if you paid him. LOL! xxoo Anne — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Nice plush hotel suite, please… smiles, Elise

9/24/06: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own Laurie :) Boating or camping? Jackie ~*~Moving at the speed of life, we are bound to collide with each other~*~ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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9/24/06: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own Laurie :) Boating or camping?

Boating would be okay if it’s a Holland-America cruise ship. Camping would be okay if it’s in my living room. Deirdre, who dropped out of Girl Scouts because there wasn’t a Beatles badge — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Boating.

9/24/06: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own Laurie :) Boating or camping? Jackie ~*~Moving at the speed of life, we are bound to collide with each other~*~ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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9/24/06: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own Laurie :) Boating or camping?

Put the boat on top of the trailer or car and do both! — Ron P What? Me worry???  hahahaha Yah right!! — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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9/24/06: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own Laurie :) Boating or camping? Oh, please, please, may I do both??????

Same here, Kili!!  Camping by the water with the boat docked right there!! The best of both worlds!!  ;))))) —

MikeH

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So glad to hear this, Mike!!!!  I’m glad your move went smoothly.  Please keep us posted.  We got a bite and the inspection was done yesterday.  So far, so good.  Termite inspection is for Tues.  :-) Hugs,

So glad to hear that you had a *bite*, Di!!  I hope your house will sell soon!! Hope mine will, too… but I’m sure it will take some time.  Right now I still have to get it emptied. Take care… and YOU keep us posted, too!! Hugs, MikeH :-) — The charter is available at:

What The Heck is N and S Americas?

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In the Shipping Charges section there is N & S Americas.  Is N. America Canada?  Its not the USA. If N. America is Canada, then why is it still on the selection list? Could be because if someone wanted both USA and Canada, N Americas would save 2 whole seconds from checking 2 separate boxes. :P (this is a sarcasm in case it zoomes over your head) — When you hear the toilet flush, and hear the words "uh oh", it’s already too late.    - by anonymous Mother in Austin, TX To reply, replace digi.mon with phreaker.net

Oh, its 250am on the West Coast, and I’m packing Hell Money for Airmail to France.  What are you doing?  Buying or Selling?

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Thats not the question. If you click the selection ”N & S Americas” then why are CANADA and Mexico separate choices?  If you click N & S Americas, and NOT CLICK Canada, then buyers will think its covered under N. America.

This is nothing new. You can also choose "Europe" or just choose "Germany" or "UK" — or you can choose "Asia" or just "Japan" Yes, if you choose N and S America, this means that you ship to Canada (among others) and you don’t need to click Canada in addition. Or you can choose just Canada and not the rest of N and S America What has changed is that this options used to read just "Americas" and many US sellers thought that this was synonymous with "USA only." Their auctions would appear in search results for items that could be shipped to Canada, Mexico, etc. and well, much confusion and frustration resulted.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In the Shipping Charges section there is N & S Americas.  Is N. America Canada?  Its not the USA. If N. America is Canada, then why is it still on the selection list? Most people with access to an atlas (or who have ever looked at a classroom map for that matter)  would say that North America includes Canada, the US and Mexico. Where exactly do you think the US is located? Thats not the question. If you click the selection ”N & S Americas” then why are CANADA and Mexico separate choices?  If you click N & S Americas, and NOT CLICK Canada, then buyers will think its covered under N. America. You know what? Forget it….I SHIP WORLDWIDE Simple. What if you ship to Canada only or Mexico only or both, yet not to N. or S. America. Where are you looking? In the US the choice is just ‘Americas.’ Which is pretty stupid for them not to break it down into N, S and Central America. Even then. Just selecting N. America means you will ship to Bermuda too. Maybe they should list areas by continent, then have a drop down checkbox for each country. Who knows. I’m like you though, who cares. I ship worldwide too! People who don’t, just don’t get it.

The "Americas" option is bad for another reason too. I’ve emailed at least 50 sellers to ask how much shipping charges to Canada are, and at least 45 times the response has been "We only ship inside our AMERICAS!". These are usually southern sellers, and I’m sure they still go out out to check their "male" box to see if I’ve sent a money order.

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In the Shipping Charges section there is N & S Americas.  Is N. America Canada?  Its not the USA. If N. America is Canada, then why is it still on the selection list?

Because of New Mexico. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics   3860 West First Street  Box 809  Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In the Shipping Charges section there is N & S Americas.  Is N. America Canada?  Its not the USA. If N. America is Canada, then why is it still on the selection list? It’s a trick by eBay to weed out sellers who don’t know where their country is located. It should read…. WE SHIP TO THE USA and N & S Americas, OTHER THAN Canada and Mexico. Maybe Greenland felt left out.

No it includes Canada and Mexico (see my post above). Greenland however, is a non-continental island from a geological perspective, and part of Europe from a political perspective.

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In the Shipping Charges section there is N & S Americas.  Is N. America Canada?  Its not the USA. If N. America is Canada, then why is it still on the selection list? Because of New Mexico. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster

New Mexico is in Central America?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In the Shipping Charges section there is N & S Americas.  Is N. America Canada?  Its not the USA. If N. America is Canada, then why is it still on the selection list? Because of New Mexico. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster New Mexico is in Central America?

Besides the languge barrier and the cusoms hassles, the main problem is that the New Mexico truck tires are a different size and spacing. Thus requiring everything to be reloaded at the border crossings. See http://www.tinaja.com/glib/enhebay2.pdf and http://www.tinaja.com/glib.marcia.pdf for further discussions. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics   3860 West First Street  Box 809  Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com

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New Mexico is in Central America?

Technically there is no contenient called Central America.  Although several countries between USA and Columbia (S. America) are often called Central America they are really part of North America. — When you hear the toilet flush, and hear the words "uh oh", it’s already too late.    - by anonymous Mother in Austin, TX To reply, replace digi.mon with phreaker.net

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In the Shipping Charges section there is N & S Americas.  Is N. America Canada?  Its not the USA. If N. America is Canada, then why is it still on the selection list? Because of New Mexico. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster New Mexico is in Central America? Besides the languge barrier and the cusoms hassles, the main problem is that the New Mexico truck tires are a different size and spacing. Thus requiring everything to be reloaded at the border crossings. See http://www.tinaja.com/glib/enhebay2.pdf and http://www.tinaja.com/glib.marcia.pdf for further discussions. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster

Based upon the book, ”The World According to Ebay,”….freight maybe shipped into New Mexico using Economy Surface Rate. Reference page 223, Paragraph 5A….”Packages weighing less than 4-lbs maybe shipped into the New Mexico Confederate State via paddleboat.”

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In the Shipping Charges section there is N & S Americas.  Is N. America Canada?  Its not the USA. If N. America is Canada, then why is it still on the selection list? Because of New Mexico. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster New Mexico is in Central America? Besides the languge barrier and the cusoms hassles, the main problem is that the New Mexico truck tires are a different size and spacing. Thus requiring everything to be reloaded at the border crossings. See http://www.tinaja.com/glib/enhebay2.pdf and http://www.tinaja.com/glib.marcia.pdf for further discussions. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Based upon the book, ”The World According to Ebay,”….freight maybe shipped into New Mexico using Economy Surface Rate. Reference page 223, Paragraph 5A….”Packages weighing less than 4-lbs maybe shipped into the New Mexico Confederate State via paddleboat.”

The port facilities in Kingston, New Mexico are dramatically being upgraded. Percha Creek is being dredged to improve the salmon run. More at http://www.blackrangelodge.com/ — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics   3860 West First Street  Box 809  Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com

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New Mexico is in Central America? Technically there is no contenient called Central America.  Although several countries between USA and Columbia (S. America) are often called Central America they are really part of North America.

Central America is in Kansas and Miss America is Deidre Downs and Churchill Downs is muddy this time of year. Ed

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In the Shipping Charges section there is N & S Americas.  Is N. America Canada?  Its not the USA. If N. America is Canada, then why is it still on the selection list? Because of New Mexico. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster New Mexico is in Central America? Besides the languge barrier and the cusoms hassles, the main problem is that the New Mexico truck tires are a different size and spacing. Thus requiring everything to be reloaded at the border crossings. See http://www.tinaja.com/glib/enhebay2.pdf and http://www.tinaja.com/glib.marcia.pdf for further discussions. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Based upon the book, ”The World According to Ebay,”….freight maybe shipped into New Mexico using Economy Surface Rate. Reference page 223, Paragraph 5A….”Packages weighing less than 4-lbs maybe shipped into the New Mexico Confederate State via paddleboat.” The port facilities in Kingston, New Mexico are dramatically being upgraded. Percha Creek is being dredged to improve the salmon run. More at http://www.blackrangelodge.com/ — Many thanks, Don Lancaster

Yes, the People’s Republic of Berkeley plans to establish an Embassy there to start free trade.  Items such as Tye Dye Shirts, Bong Pipes, and Blondie Pizza Franchises should be arriving soon.  An early delegation of 60’s hippies should be there now setting of pot farms and organic veggie stands. POWER TO THE PEOPLE! STRUGGLE ON MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS!

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The port facilities in Kingston, New Mexico are dramatically being

upgraded. Percha Creek is being dredged to improve the salmon run.

Actually a Texas financed Panama like canal is halfway completed across New Mexico. When it is completed, they are coming to get ya Don.

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Yes, the People’s Republic of Berkeley plans to establish an Embassy there to start free trade.  Items such as Tye Dye Shirts, Bong Pipes, and Blondie Pizza Franchises should be arriving soon.  An early delegation of 60’s hippies should be there now setting of pot farms and organic veggie stands. POWER TO THE PEOPLE! STRUGGLE ON MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS!

RIGHT ARM! UPRIGHT! OUTA STATE! Flee Huey Newton!

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The port facilities in Kingston, New Mexico are dramatically being upgraded. Percha Creek is being dredged to improve the salmon run. Actually a Texas financed Panama like canal is halfway completed across New Mexico. When it is completed, they are coming to get ya Don.

Except that the EAST end of the Panama Canal ended up on the Pacific sidee! — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics   3860 West First Street  Box 809  Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes, the People’s Republic of Berkeley plans to establish an Embassy there to start free trade.  Items such as Tye Dye Shirts, Bong Pipes, and Blondie Pizza Franchises should be arriving soon.  An early delegation of 60’s hippies should be there now setting of pot farms and organic veggie stands. POWER TO THE PEOPLE! STRUGGLE ON MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS! RIGHT ARM! UPRIGHT! OUTA STATE! Flee Huey Newton!

Free the Indinapolis 500. Free Floyd Collins. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics   3860 West First Street  Box 809  Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com

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Yes, the People’s Republic of Berkeley plans to establish an Embassy there to start free trade.  Items such as Tye Dye Shirts, Bong Pipes, and Blondie Pizza Franchises should be arriving soon.  An early delegation of 60’s hippies should be there now setting of pot farms and organic veggie stands. POWER TO THE PEOPLE! STRUGGLE ON MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS!

I’m in! A

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POWER TO THE PEOPLE! STRUGGLE ON MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS! I’m in!

The sit-in will be in the Student Union Building at 9:00am Monday. Be there or be square.

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In the Shipping Charges section there is N & S Americas.  Is N. America Canada?  Its not the USA. If N. America is Canada, then why is it still on the selection list?

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In the Shipping Charges section there is N & S Americas.  Is N. America Canada?  Its not the USA. If N. America is Canada, then why is it still on the selection list?

Most people with access to an atlas (or who have ever looked at a classroom map for that matter)  would say that North America includes Canada, the US and Mexico. Where exactly do you think the US is located?

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In the Shipping Charges section there is N & S Americas.  Is N. America Canada?  Its not the USA. If N. America is Canada, then why is it still on the selection list?

It’s a trick by eBay to weed out sellers who don’t know where their country is located. Everything I know, and then some: http://www.auctionmyths.com

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In the Shipping Charges section there is N & S Americas.  Is N. America Canada?  Its not the USA. If N. America is Canada, then why is it still on the selection list? It’s a trick by eBay to weed out sellers who don’t know where their country is located.

It should read…. WE SHIP TO THE USA and N & S Americas, OTHER THAN Canada and Mexico. Maybe Greenland felt left out.

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In the Shipping Charges section there is N & S Americas.  Is N. America Canada?  Its not the USA. If N. America is Canada, then why is it still on the selection list? Most people with access to an atlas (or who have ever looked at a classroom map for that matter)  would say that North America includes Canada, the US and Mexico. Where exactly do you think the US is located?

Thats not the question. If you click the selection ”N & S Americas” then why are CANADA and Mexico separate choices?  If you click N & S Americas, and NOT CLICK Canada, then buyers will think its covered under N. America. You know what? Forget it….I SHIP WORLDWIDE

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In the Shipping Charges section there is N & S Americas.  Is N. America Canada?  Its not the USA. If N. America is Canada, then why is it still on the selection list?

Could be because if someone wanted both USA and Canada, N Americas would save 2 whole seconds from checking 2 separate boxes. :P   (this is a sarcasm in case it zoomes over your head) — When you hear the toilet flush, and hear the words "uh oh", it’s already too late.    - by anonymous Mother in Austin, TX To reply, replace digi.mon with phreaker.net

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In the Shipping Charges section there is N & S Americas.  Is N. America Canada?  Its not the USA. If N. America is Canada, then why is it still on the selection list? Most people with access to an atlas (or who have ever looked at a classroom map for that matter)  would say that North America includes Canada, the US and Mexico. Where exactly do you think the US is located? Thats not the question. If you click the selection ”N & S Americas” then why are CANADA and Mexico separate choices?  If you click N & S Americas, and NOT CLICK Canada, then buyers will think its covered under N. America. You know what? Forget it….I SHIP WORLDWIDE

Simple. What if you ship to Canada only or Mexico only or both, yet not to N. or S. America. Where are you looking? In the US the choice is just ‘Americas.’ Which is pretty stupid for them not to break it down into N, S and Central America. Even then. Just selecting N. America means you will ship to Bermuda too. Maybe they should list areas by continent, then have a drop down checkbox for each country. Who knows. I’m like you though, who cares. I ship worldwide too! People who don’t, just don’t get it.

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Ping Pam S

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After the rain last night, I just took the day off, I hate mowing wet grass, and checked out the campgrounds. I had a good drive checking things out. Out on the refuge I saw the usual buffalo and long horn cattle, and had to stop at one point to let some long horns cross the road, mamas with the little babies. You don’t get to see the wildlife on post, of course, but I did have to slow down for a turkey hen to cross the road. Good / Bad news sort of thing. Bad news is that neither campgrounds accept reservations for tent camping. The people I talked to doubt that they’d be full, but both are first come first serve for tents. IMO, the campground on the Refuge is nicer. It’s located in a grove of trees, for one thing, while the one on post is pretty much out in the open. Also, the refuge has individual sites, while on post there’s just an area for tents and you can put up the tent wherever you can squeeze in. The one on post does have some good points, I guess especially if you have kids to entertain. Swimming area with a big water slide (and lifeguard), miniture golf, paddle boats, little store, resturant, etc. Both camps are on lakes, so, so is fishing. The one on post has a bait shop right there, but you have to remember to stop at a bait shop on the way to the Refuge. You need a state license to fish both, but can probably just buy a short 3-5 day license. I remembered to ask on post, and you can fish the lake at the campgrounds without buying the additional post license. Checkout is 3PM at both campgrounds, so since it’s first come/ first serve the best thing is to be there at three to pick your site. Course I don’t know what time you think you’ll be pulling in, and could probably arrange to head out there and pick a spot if it’s much later than 3. I picked up a brochure on the Refuge, and the tent fees are $6 a night. I forgot to get a brochure on post. IIRC, it costs $4 to get in the gate, which gives you access to the picnic and beach/swmming areas. Then, there’s an additional $4 to pitch a tent, and the miniture golf and boat rental fees are on top of that if you want. Here’s a couple sites: Wichita Mountains Wildlife Refuge http://southwest.fws.gov/refuges/oklahoma/Wichita/camping.html Fort Sill – Lake Elmer Thomas Recreation Area http://www.sillmwr.com/letra.htm One thing I discovered today about the Elmer Thomas site is that you may not be able to get there following their directions, since the gate they mention was closed, at least for today. It might open up later on in the season, though. If you end up staying there, hopefully the gate will be open, otherwise you have to drive through the Ft Sill ranges on narrow twisting roads, through several low water crossings, black out areas, etc. It could be a part of the security measures, though, since once you get to the campgrounds there are no gates to keep you out of the regular part of the Post. — Steve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html

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Checkout is 3PM at both campgrounds, so since it’s first come/ first serve the best thing is to be there at three to pick your site. Course I don’t know what time you think you’ll be pulling in, and could probably arrange to head out there and pick a spot if it’s much later than 3. I picked up a brochure on the Refuge, and the tent fees are $6 a night. I forgot to get a brochure on post. IIRC, it costs $4 to get in the gate, which gives you access to the picnic and beach/swmming areas. Then, there’s an additional $4 to pitch a tent, and the miniture golf and boat rental fees are on top of that if you want.

Thanks Steve.  I read this to Rob, bookmarked both sites, and discussed the pros and cons of both areas with him.  We agree that the wild life refuge sounds best for us as not only can we find it easier, but our friends can find us easier as well. I don’t recall how long a day Rob said the trip between Memphis and Lawton will be, hopefully, we will be there by three.  We’ll make an early start if at all possible.  Maybe we can work something out for us to get together for dinner at the camp ground.  Jim and I’ll cook spaghetti if you, Sherry, and her hubby can and will join us. Pam S. getting really excited about meeting everyone.

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Sonya have her kittens yet? Kristi

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Geez, I hope so, for Sonya’s sake! =o) Not that raising a family of kittens is restful for the mother cat. Melissa

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Geez, I hope so, for Sonya’s sake! =o) Not that raising a family of kittens is restful for the mother cat. Melissa

I wonder why she doesn’t tell us?

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Geez, I hope so, for Sonya’s sake! =o) Not that raising a family of kittens is restful for the mother cat. Melissa I wonder why she doesn’t tell us?

Maybe she’s busy with a handful of kittens. Jill

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[[ Geez, I hope so, for Sonya's sake! =o) Not that raising a family of kittens is restful for the mother cat. Melissa I wonder why she doesn't tell us?

Maybe she's busy with a handful of kittens. Jill]] From your mouth to God’s ears. Or should I say, "From your keyboard to God’s newsreader". ;o) I hope all is well and we’ve become a bunch of kitty Aunties and Uncles thanks to Sonya. Donna, Captain, and Stanley (who’ll gladly become Uncles and teach the new kittens how to investigate everything they set eyes on)

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Sonya have her kittens yet? Kristi

Nope.  We’re still waiting for the kittens to get off the mother train.   She’s really uncomfortable and unhappy, and wants lots of comfort and love from us all.  Poor kid.  I wish she’d just have them and get it over with. Pam S. who has worn the carpet down in the hallway outside Mandy’s room

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Camping

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The fun parts.. To get away from it all I went bike riding. I got 20 miles in altogether. Mainly on Saturday. I know not many miles really, but to me its a something. 20 miles is *plenty* for someone who doesn’t cycle on a regular basis. congratulations on doing it.  

oh yes last summer I did 22 miles in a day with my sister in the Loire Valley, neither of us cycle on a regular basis so it was pretty tough.  it was a sunday and the only wine maker we planned to visit was closed, so were all the chateaus we planned to visit on the route.  we were chased out when we sneaked into one chateau that is normally open for public access for a pee.

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The fun parts.. To get away from it all I went bike riding. I got 20 miles in altogether. Mainly on Saturday. I know not many miles really, but to me its a something. 20 miles is *plenty* for someone who doesn’t cycle on a regular basis. congratulations on doing it.   Thank you!  I started out at just 5 miles a day. Worked my way up to the 20 now. Trying to do it three times a week. Don’t think it will be a problem. I love biking.

good for you!  i love it too.  i’m really glad i started doing it again. it’s so good for you, and it can be a nice way to meditate.  

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Then planning a longer one too, around Kelly’s Island.  Looking into Where do you live?  I’m about an hour from Kelly’s Island, assuming you mean the one on Lake Erie’s shore. The scenery was beautiful for sure! I thought about going to other states to camp. But havn’t yet really seen all of Ohio. Its different in all areas of the state. So doing Ohio this year. I live in Columbus. In the suburbs. Southwestern part. I grew up out of downtown though, near OSU campus. I mainly hit the State Parks. There is a couple near Kelly’s Island. Cattawba, south and central bass islands.  The islands look interesting. Then I am into lighthouses. There is Marblehead lighthouse near there. I have in-law family in Cleveland. So been up to Lake Erie in that area, but not near the islands. So, looking very forward to that trip. I think around July, for my birthday we will do that trip. Making it a week long one. Even looking into renting something out for a week, instead of camping it. Have you been there? Whats it like? I love the beach. The boys love to fish. Should be something for all of us to do.

I haven’t been to Kelly’s Island yet.  We mostly go to Put-In-Bay (South Bass Island).  It’s a nice get away for a day.  Go to the top of Perry’s Monument for a nice view (on a clear day, you can see Pelee Island in Canada).  Visit the caverns.  You can tour the winery.  There is a nice nature spot. They have parasailing.  Most of the restaurants have live entertainment in the afternoons and evenings.  Rent a bike or golf cart for the day, take your own bike or car on the ferry, or just walk everywhere.  I believe the island is only something like 3 miles wide by 5 miles long. Marblehead lighthouse is very close to the Miller Ferry.  Enjoy! Marsha/Ohio

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Then planning a longer one too, around Kelly’s Island.  Looking into Where do you live?  I’m about an hour from Kelly’s Island, assuming you mean the one on Lake Erie’s shore.

The scenery was beautiful for sure! I thought about going to other states to camp. But havn’t yet really seen all of Ohio. Its different in all areas of the state. So doing Ohio this year. I live in Columbus. In the suburbs. Southwestern part. I grew up out of downtown though, near OSU campus. I mainly hit the State Parks. There is a couple near Kelly’s Island. Cattawba, south and central bass islands.  The islands look interesting. Then I am into lighthouses. There is Marblehead lighthouse near there. I have in-law family in Cleveland. So been up to Lake Erie in that area, but not near the islands. So, looking very forward to that trip. I think around July, for my birthday we will do that trip. Making it a week long one. Even looking into renting something out for a week, instead of camping it. Have you been there? Whats it like? I love the beach. The boys love to fish. Should be something for all of us to do.

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::: :::: The fun parts.. To get away from it all I went bike riding. I got :::: 20 miles in altogether. Mainly on Saturday. I know not many miles :::: really, but to me its a something. :: ::: 20 miles is *plenty* for someone who doesn’t cycle on a regular ::: basis. congratulations on doing it. ::: :: Thank you!  I started out at just 5 miles a day. Worked my way up to :: the 20 now. Trying to do it three times a week. Don’t think it will :: be a problem. I love biking. Wow….go Sunshyne!

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The fun parts.. To get away from it all I went bike riding. I got 20 miles in altogether. Mainly on Saturday. I know not many miles really, but to me its a something. 20 miles is *plenty* for someone who doesn’t cycle on a regular basis. congratulations on doing it.  

Thank you!  I started out at just 5 miles a day. Worked my way up to the 20 now. Trying to do it three times a week. Don’t think it will be a problem. I love biking.

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We camped with two other families. That was harder than I thought. In the way..that it bothered me big time, what they ate, what they even fed their kids. The all day long eating. The junk food. Made me more determined to stick to this WOE.

Congratulations ! The fun parts.. To get away from it all I went bike riding. I got 20 miles in altogether. Mainly on Saturday. I know not many miles really, but to me its a something. Considering my back, neck, and the fibromyalgia. Took a group of

That’s a lot.  Bet the time went by fast with all the beautiful scenery. fishing. Then planning a longer one too, around Kelly’s Island.  Looking into

Where do you live?  I’m about an hour from Kelly’s Island, assuming you mean the one on Lake Erie’s shore. Marsha/Ohio

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The fun parts.. To get away from it all I went bike riding. I got 20 miles in altogether. Mainly on Saturday. I know not many miles really, but to me its a something.

20 miles is *plenty* for someone who doesn’t cycle on a regular basis. congratulations on doing it.  

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We camped with two other families. That was harder than I thought. In the way..that it bothered me big time, what they ate, what they even fed their kids. The all day long eating. The junk food. Made me more determined to stick to this WOE. The fun parts.. To get away from it all I went bike riding. I got 20 miles in altogether. Mainly on Saturday. I know not many miles really, but to me its a something. Considering my back, neck, and the fibromyalgia. Took a group of kids on a 5 mile hike also. Packed along beef jerky and lots of water.  Where we fished at, no trout. But we did catch  Bass, Catfish,  Bluegill. I caught a couple Catfish myself. Even cooked it and ate it. Was pretty damn good. I brought enough yougurt to feed the whole group. The homemade sort. With the syrp, fresh fruit, whole yogurt. The kids thought it as a dessert. The rains came back, so came home a little early this morning. Took a long nap. Got what feels like allergies or a cold coming on. Plan on sleeping it off. The trip was very invigorating though. Plan on doing a couple more. Most likely next weekend, though leaving on Thursday…(Kids get outta school for the year that day) To a campground near the mohican river. Better chance at trout fishing. Then planning a longer one too, around Kelly’s Island.  Looking into buying two boats, like paddle or rowboats, or canoes. The rental on the boats are a little high I think. Also, not camping with others who aren’t low carbing, or at the least eating healthy. I got the exercise also with the boating. I think exercise is alot easier if its fun to do. -Peace of mind comes from accepting what we cannot control and taking responsibility for what we can.- Atkins since 1/17/04 267/214/135 CCLL-40

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The Ten Commandments

Question:

Dan Should add "or use spell checker" to #7.

Microsoft’s spell checker, and by the way thanks for the correct spelling of checker.:-( Big John

– . — Cheers, Jonathan Lowe whatever at antispam dot net No email address given because of spam. Antispam trap in place – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip 6. Thou Shalt not kill, except it’s on BISH’s explisit orders, then kill men woman and inicent children until his will be done. — 7. Thou shalt learn from thine teachers how to spell. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

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<snip 6. Thou Shalt not kill, except it’s on BISH’s explisit orders, then kill men woman and inicent children until his will be done. — 7. Thou shalt learn from thine teachers how to spell.

Bit late now unfortunately,:-( — . — Cheers, Jonathan Lowe whatever at antispam dot net No email address given because of spam. Antispam trap in place – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

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Sorry to correct your english, old boy, but…. u shuld ave rote dat lik dis: u knot cumpletle rit DAR. u no wut imma tallcing abut?

Odly enough YES, I can manage to translate that,:-) — . — Cheers, Jonathan Lowe whatever at antispam dot net No email address given because of spam. Antispam trap in place – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – your knot completely rite their… . Dan Should add "or use spell checker" to #7. Big John <snip 6. Thou Shalt not kill, except it’s on BISH’s explisit orders, then kill men woman and inicent children until his will be done. — 7. Thou shalt learn from thine teachers how to spell. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

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Chile, I *is* Cajun.  Haf-Cajun, ennyways.  De udder haf o me is Irish – some DENGEROUS com-by-nat-shun, ah tell yu!  Son!  Now yew lissen heah, chile.  Yew don’ wan’ no merde, yew don’ START no merde, compren’?  Dem gators don’ care who yew vote fo’, lessun it was a Long. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Ten Commandments in Cajun… (Keeps it REAL Simple)

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The problem there is those words would not make it through the spell checker, unless of course you added them  ;o) — Dan D. . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sorry to correct your english, old boy, but…. u shuld ave rote dat lik dis: u knot cumpletle rit DAR. u no wut imma tallcing abut? your knot completely rite their… . Dan Should add "or use spell checker" to #7. Big John <snip 6. Thou Shalt not kill, except it’s on BISH’s explisit orders, then kill men woman and inicent children until his will be done. — 7. Thou shalt learn from thine teachers how to spell. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

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<snip 6. Thou Shalt not kill, except it’s on BISH’s explisit orders, then kill men woman and inicent children until his will be done. —

7. Thou shalt learn from thine teachers how to spell. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

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Dan Should add "or use spell checker" to #7. Big John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip 6. Thou Shalt not kill, except it’s on BISH’s explisit orders, then kill men woman and inicent children until his will be done. — 7. Thou shalt learn from thine teachers how to spell. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

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your knot completely rite their… . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dan Should add "or use spell checker" to #7. Big John <snip 6. Thou Shalt not kill, except it’s on BISH’s explisit orders, then kill men woman and inicent children until his will be done. — 7. Thou shalt learn from thine teachers how to spell. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

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Sorry to correct your english, old boy, but…. u shuld ave rote dat lik dis: u knot cumpletle rit DAR. u no wut imma tallcing abut?

your knot completely rite their… .

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dan Should add "or use spell checker" to #7. Big John <snip 6. Thou Shalt not kill, except it’s on BISH’s explisit orders, then kill men woman and inicent children until his will be done. — 7. Thou shalt learn from thine teachers how to spell. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

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The Ten Commandments The Ten Commandments in Cajun… (Keeps it REAL Simple) 1. BUSH is number one… and das’ All. 2. Don’t pray to nuttin’ or nobody… jus’ BUSH. 3. Don’t cuss nobody… ’specially da Good Lord. 4. When it be Sunday… pass yo’self by BUSH’s House. 5. Yo mama an’ yo daddy dun did it all… lissen to dem.

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Weird mix of ng groups to send this to……. A deadhead who wants to build his own airplane while playing soccer on a paddle boat that has ten commandments (really only 5 twice?) posted next to the foot pedals.

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Weird mix of ng groups to send this to……. A deadhead who wants to build his own airplane while playing soccer on a paddle boat that has ten commandments (really only 5 twice?) posted next to the foot pedals.

  Define weird. Weird like "right wing deadheads"?

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The Ten Commandments The Ten Commandments in Cajun… (Keeps it REAL Simple) 1. BUSH is number one… and das’ All.

James Carville and I had a good laugh over this one. JD

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Ten Commandments The Ten Commandments in Cajun… (Keeps it REAL Simple) 1. BUSH is number one… and das’ All. James Carville and I had a good laugh over this one. JD

Well I took the whole thing as a sarcastic take on the current Cajun socio-political climate. g.c.

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Well I took the whole thing as a sarcastic take on the current Cajun socio-political climate.

I took it to mean this guy has too much time on his hands and is looking to start a fight. You’d think school would keep him busy…

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The Ten Commandments The Ten Commandments in Cajun… (Keeps it REAL Simple) 1. BUSH is number one… and das’ All. 2. Don’t pray to nuttin’ or nobody… jus’ BUSH. 3. Don’t cuss nobody… ’specially da Good Lord. 4. When it be Sunday… pass yo’self by BUSH’s House. 5. Yo mama an’ yo daddy dun did it all… lissen to dem.

6. Thou Shalt not kill, except it’s on BISH’s explisit orders, then kill men woman and inicent children until his will be done. — . — Cheers, Jonathan Lowe whatever at antispam dot net No email address given because of spam. Antispam trap in place

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Well I took the whole thing as a sarcastic take on the current Cajun socio-political climate. I took it to mean this guy has too much time on his hands and is looking to start a fight. You’d think school would keep him busy…

Kindergarten is only half day.

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Wish me luck

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If you are kayaking on a lake it is pretty easy to do, and a nice place to learn and they aren’t that easy to turn over, unless you hit a rock. I highly recommend it, lots of fun. Roxan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We have several friends that enjoy kayaking. . . . we live next to a state park that have a nice little lake and we go camping as a group and they enjoy kayaking on the lake. . . . I’ve never really tried it (kinda looks like I could turn over in one of those things, ya know??).  Maybe I’ll have to get braver this summer and try kayaking. . . Cy Fan (Karen) I am on my way to go kayaking for the first time this year. It is still cold here in Pennsylvania, but my kayaking buddies still want to do it. Pray I don’t get dunked, the water temp. is about 40 degrees and the stream that we are doing is spring feed. It has a lot of twists and turns and can be challenging in fast water, oh so much fun and it will add to my exercise plan. I will let you all know how I make out when I get back. Roxan —

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Luck for me I didn’t get dunked. Roxan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It sounds like great fun!!!  I am jealous!  Although, I sure wouldn’t wish a cold dunk!! Doe I am on my way to go kayaking for the first time this year. It is still cold here in Pennsylvania, but my kayaking buddies still want to do it. Pray I don’t get dunked, the water temp. is about 40 degrees and the stream that we are doing is spring feed. It has a lot of twists and turns and can be challenging in fast water, oh so much fun and it will add to my exercise plan. I will let you all know how I make out when I get back. Roxan — — Doe : ) &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& "Blessed are the flexible for they shall not be bent out of shape."

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I learned by going out with a friend. The first trip we did a large river here, I got caught in a thunder storm, but got hooked the first time I did it. It really isn’t hard to do, I like to run in fast water and small dams. It is challenging and so much fun, take a change and do it. It is a great way to add exercise to your program and have a wonderful time in the process. Let me know if you take the plunge and learn to kayak Roxan.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Three newsgroup readers and I can’t get a message.  Harrumph.  So I rootled around in the one that DID catch this message (but absolutely refuses to allow me to answer), and had to put it in as a new message, sorta. Roxan, although he is the outdoorsman, I think that is what I am going to do.  We have a class in kayaking at the college where I work, and I just have to register.  Maybe he will try it out anyway.  He hates being limited; he can’t downhill or water ski, either.  Really bugs him.  At least we can play golf and the like together (I get the most turns!). kat ^.^< So, I hate to say this, leave him at home and go yourself. There is a group of us girls that leave our hubby at home and go without them. We all got tired of waiting till they were ready. It is very addicting, once bitten you will want to do it more often. I had a ball, but wouldn’t you know it, today it is beautiful and warm, yesterday cold and rainy, but we went anyway. Hope you get a chance to do it this summer. Roxan Great job Roxan– I hope to take a kayaking class this summer through the local college.  Went on a quick jaunt many years ago and knew immediately that I had better not do it again until I could do it often; I could feel the addiction kicking in!  We haven’t even camped or canoed in years–hubbie’s got a very bad back and can’t go for long jaunts.  I should have more time this summer, being down to only two classes instead of a full load. — kat ^.^< My Norwegian-descended friends and I have a deal.  They don’t make me eat Lutefisk, I don’t make them eat grits. I am on my way to go kayaking for the first time this year. It is still cold here in Pennsylvania, but my kayaking buddies still want to do it. Pray I don’t get dunked, the water temp. is about 40 degrees and the stream that we are doing is spring feed. It has a lot of twists and turns and can be challenging in fast water, oh so much fun and it will add to my exercise plan. I will let you all know how I make out when I get back. Roxan — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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I was hooked on a five-minute ride in flat water when a couple of kayakers rolled up to the shore and, seeing me gawk, asked if I wanted to have a go. Three strokes and I was hooked.  Had to turn back almost immediately because a riverboat (yes, paddles and all) was coming upstream and I was between it and the dock! I could go alone, that isn’t a problem, but it is fun to have someone to talk with later.  But I asked my daughter if she wanted to sign up with me, but she has to many classes in firefighting this summer (she hopes to join the local boys).  That leaves my son, my ww buddy, and a few other unsuspecting folks… kat ^.^<

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I learned by going out with a friend. The first trip we did a large river here, I got caught in a thunder storm, but got hooked the first time I did it. It really isn’t hard to do, I like to run in fast water and small dams. It is challenging and so much fun, take a change and do it. It is a great way to add exercise to your program and have a wonderful time in the process. Let me know if you take the plunge and learn to kayak Roxan. Three newsgroup readers and I can’t get a message.  Harrumph.  So I rootled around in the one that DID catch this message (but absolutely refuses to allow me to answer), and had to put it in as a new message, sorta. Roxan, although he is the outdoorsman, I think that is what I am going to do.  We have a class in kayaking at the college where I work, and I just have to register.  Maybe he will try it out anyway.  He hates being limited; he can’t downhill or water ski, either.  Really bugs him.  At least we can play golf and the like together (I get the most turns!). kat ^.^< So, I hate to say this, leave him at home and go yourself. There is a group of us girls that leave our hubby at home and go without them. We all got tired of waiting till they were ready. It is very addicting, once bitten you will want to do it more often. I had a ball, but wouldn’t you know it, today it is beautiful and warm, yesterday cold and rainy, but we went anyway. Hope you get a chance to do it this summer. Roxan Great job Roxan– I hope to take a kayaking class this summer through the local college.  Went on a quick jaunt many years ago and knew immediately that I had better not do it again until I could do it often; I could feel the addiction kicking in!  We haven’t even camped or canoed in years–hubbie’s got a very bad back and can’t go for long jaunts.  I should have more time this summer, being down to only two classes instead of a full load. — kat ^.^< My Norwegian-descended friends and I have a deal.  They don’t make me eat Lutefisk, I don’t make them eat grits. I am on my way to go kayaking for the first time this year. It is still cold here in Pennsylvania, but my kayaking buddies still want to do it. Pray I don’t get dunked, the water temp. is about 40 degrees and the stream that we are doing is spring feed. It has a lot of twists and turns and can be challenging in fast water, oh so much fun and it will add to my exercise plan. I will let you all know how I make out when I get back. Roxan — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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I never go kayaking alone, too dangerous and never without a life jacket. There are kayaking clubs in my area that give free courses. My husband is getting interested enough to want to try to do it. If he does he will be hooked too. Roxan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was hooked on a five-minute ride in flat water when a couple of kayakers rolled up to the shore and, seeing me gawk, asked if I wanted to have a go. Three strokes and I was hooked.  Had to turn back almost immediately because a riverboat (yes, paddles and all) was coming upstream and I was between it and the dock! I could go alone, that isn’t a problem, but it is fun to have someone to talk with later.  But I asked my daughter if she wanted to sign up with me, but she has to many classes in firefighting this summer (she hopes to join the local boys).  That leaves my son, my ww buddy, and a few other unsuspecting folks… kat ^.^< I learned by going out with a friend. The first trip we did a large river here, I got caught in a thunder storm, but got hooked the first time I did it. It really isn’t hard to do, I like to run in fast water and small dams. It is challenging and so much fun, take a change and do it. It is a great way to add exercise to your program and have a wonderful time in the process. Let me know if you take the plunge and learn to kayak Roxan. Three newsgroup readers and I can’t get a message.  Harrumph.  So I rootled around in the one that DID catch this message (but absolutely refuses to allow me to answer), and had to put it in as a new message, sorta. Roxan, although he is the outdoorsman, I think that is what I am going to do.  We have a class in kayaking at the college where I work, and I just have to register.  Maybe he will try it out anyway.  He hates being limited; he can’t downhill or water ski, either.  Really bugs him.  At least we can play golf and the like together (I get the most turns!). kat ^.^< So, I hate to say this, leave him at home and go yourself. There is a group of us girls that leave our hubby at home and go without them. We all got tired of waiting till they were ready. It is very addicting, once bitten you will want to do it more often. I had a ball, but wouldn’t you know it, today it is beautiful and warm, yesterday cold and rainy, but we went anyway. Hope you get a chance to do it this summer. Roxan Great job Roxan– I hope to take a kayaking class this summer through the local college.  Went on a quick jaunt many years ago and knew immediately that I had better not do it again until I could do it often; I could feel the addiction kicking in!  We haven’t even camped or canoed in years–hubbie’s got a very bad back and can’t go for long jaunts.  I should have more time this summer, being down to only two classes instead of a full load. — kat ^.^< My Norwegian-descended friends and I have a deal.  They don’t make me eat Lutefisk, I don’t make them eat grits. I am on my way to go kayaking for the first time this year. It is still cold here in Pennsylvania, but my kayaking buddies still want to do it. Pray I don’t get dunked, the water temp. is about 40 degrees and the stream that we are doing is spring feed. It has a lot of twists and turns and can be challenging in fast water, oh so much fun and it will add to my exercise plan. I will let you all know how I make out when I get back. Roxan — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—– —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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You got it girl. Do it. Roxan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am quite sure there are some up here.  In Wausau they have a world-class course and people come from all over in the later part of the season. Thanks for all the info.  My kayak would look so cute beside my hubbie’s 6 (no, five, one belongs the Boy now) boats! kat ^.^< Look for a kayaking club, I bet that the person that is giving the classes will know where there are some. They have really good trips that usually don’t cost anything if you have a kayak. I bought my second hand off someone who wanted to upgrade for $300. paddle, shirt, and boat for a Rascal, this was a good price considering they cost about $600. new. Mine was like new wasn’t used all that much. Look around for one in the paper or from a club member who wants to buy a different kind. My husband, who worry that I might drown, bought me a really good not cheap life vest made for kayaking for my birthday. These are a little shorter than the one’s you use for regular boating. Roxan I was actually thinking of joining the class on my own, but you bring up an important point.  In reality, it would be foolish to go alone!  My son is an Eagle Scout and one thing they drummed into the boys is to "buddy up." It would be a long time before I tried any wild water, too.  I suppose they make better jackets than they used to:  the ones we have always chafe my neck, but they are better than the old "Mae West" style. No free classes around here, but I might get a discount because I work for the college.  The classes aren’t too awful expensive, anyway. kat ^.^< I never go kayaking alone, too dangerous and never without a life jacket. There are kayaking clubs in my area that give free courses. My husband is getting interested enough to want to try to do it. If he does he will be hooked too. Roxan I was hooked on a five-minute ride in flat water when a couple of kayakers rolled up to the shore and, seeing me gawk, asked if I wanted to have a go. Three strokes and I was hooked.  Had to turn back almost immediately because a riverboat (yes, paddles and all) was coming upstream and I was between it and the dock! I could go alone, that isn’t a problem, but it is fun to have someone to talk with later.  But I asked my daughter if she wanted to sign up with me, but she has to many classes in firefighting this summer (she hopes to join the local boys).  That leaves my son, my ww buddy, and a few other unsuspecting folks… kat ^.^< I learned by going out with a friend. The first trip we did a large river here, I got caught in a thunder storm, but got hooked the first time I did it. It really isn’t hard to do, I like to run in fast water and small dams. It is challenging and so much fun, take a change and do it. It is a great way to add exercise to your program and have a wonderful time in the process. Let me know if you take the plunge and learn to kayak Roxan. Three newsgroup readers and I can’t get a message.  Harrumph. So I rootled around in the one that DID catch this message (but absolutely refuses to allow me to answer), and had to put it in as a new message, sorta. Roxan, although he is the outdoorsman, I think that is what I am going to do.  We have a class in kayaking at the college where I work, and I just have to register.  Maybe he will try it out anyway.  He hates being limited; he can’t downhill or water ski, either.  Really bugs him.  At least we can play golf and the like together (I get the most turns!). kat ^.^< So, I hate to say this, leave him at home and go yourself. There is a group of us girls that leave our hubby at home and go without them. We all got tired of waiting till they were ready. It is very addicting, once bitten you will want to do it more often. I had a ball, but wouldn’t you know it, today it is beautiful and warm, yesterday cold and rainy, but we went anyway. Hope you get a chance to do it this summer. Roxan Great job Roxan– I hope to take a kayaking class this summer through the local college.  Went on a quick jaunt many years ago and knew immediately that I had better not do it again until I could do it often; I could feel the addiction kicking in!  We haven’t even camped or canoed in years–hubbie’s got a very bad back and can’t go for long jaunts. I should have more time this summer, being down to only two classes instead of a full load. — kat ^.^< My Norwegian-descended friends and I have a deal.  They don’t make me eat Lutefisk, I don’t make them eat grits. I am on my way to go kayaking for the first time this year. It is still cold here in Pennsylvania, but my kayaking buddies still want to do it. Pray I don’t get dunked, the water temp. is about 40 degrees and the stream that we are doing is spring feed. It has a lot of twists and turns and can be challenging in fast water, oh so much fun and it will add to my exercise plan. I will let you all know how I make out when I get back. Roxan — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—– —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—– —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—– —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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I am quite sure there are some up here.  In Wausau they have a world-class course and people come from all over in the later part of the season. Thanks for all the info.  My kayak would look so cute beside my hubbie’s 6 (no, five, one belongs the Boy now) boats! kat ^.^<

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Look for a kayaking club, I bet that the person that is giving the classes will know where there are some. They have really good trips that usually don’t cost anything if you have a kayak. I bought my second hand off someone who wanted to upgrade for $300. paddle, shirt, and boat for a Rascal, this was a good price considering they cost about $600. new. Mine was like new wasn’t used all that much. Look around for one in the paper or from a club member who wants to buy a different kind. My husband, who worry that I might drown, bought me a really good not cheap life vest made for kayaking for my birthday. These are a little shorter than the one’s you use for regular boating. Roxan I was actually thinking of joining the class on my own, but you bring up an important point.  In reality, it would be foolish to go alone!  My son is an Eagle Scout and one thing they drummed into the boys is to "buddy up." It would be a long time before I tried any wild water, too.  I suppose they make better jackets than they used to:  the ones we have always chafe my neck, but they are better than the old "Mae West" style. No free classes around here, but I might get a discount because I work for the college.  The classes aren’t too awful expensive, anyway. kat ^.^< I never go kayaking alone, too dangerous and never without a life jacket. There are kayaking clubs in my area that give free courses. My husband is getting interested enough to want to try to do it. If he does he will be hooked too. Roxan I was hooked on a five-minute ride in flat water when a couple of kayakers rolled up to the shore and, seeing me gawk, asked if I wanted to have a go. Three strokes and I was hooked.  Had to turn back almost immediately because a riverboat (yes, paddles and all) was coming upstream and I was between it and the dock! I could go alone, that isn’t a problem, but it is fun to have someone to talk with later.  But I asked my daughter if she wanted to sign up with me, but she has to many classes in firefighting this summer (she hopes to join the local boys).  That leaves my son, my ww buddy, and a few other unsuspecting folks… kat ^.^< I learned by going out with a friend. The first trip we did a large river here, I got caught in a thunder storm, but got hooked the first time I did it. It really isn’t hard to do, I like to run in fast water and small dams. It is challenging and so much fun, take a change and do it. It is a great way to add exercise to your program and have a wonderful time in the process. Let me know if you take the plunge and learn to kayak Roxan. Three newsgroup readers and I can’t get a message.  Harrumph. So I rootled around in the one that DID catch this message (but absolutely refuses to allow me to answer), and had to put it in as a new message, sorta. Roxan, although he is the outdoorsman, I think that is what I am going to do.  We have a class in kayaking at the college where I work, and I just have to register.  Maybe he will try it out anyway.  He hates being limited; he can’t downhill or water ski, either.  Really bugs him.  At least we can play golf and the like together (I get the most turns!). kat ^.^< So, I hate to say this, leave him at home and go yourself. There is a group of us girls that leave our hubby at home and go without them. We all got tired of waiting till they were ready. It is very addicting, once bitten you will want to do it more often. I had a ball, but wouldn’t you know it, today it is beautiful and warm, yesterday cold and rainy, but we went anyway. Hope you get a chance to do it this summer. Roxan Great job Roxan– I hope to take a kayaking class this summer through the local college.  Went on a quick jaunt many years ago and knew immediately that I had better not do it again until I could do it often; I could feel the addiction kicking in!  We haven’t even camped or canoed in years–hubbie’s got a very bad back and can’t go for long jaunts. I should have more time this summer, being down to only two classes instead of a full load. — kat ^.^< My Norwegian-descended friends and I have a deal.  They don’t make me eat Lutefisk, I don’t make them eat grits. I am on my way to go kayaking for the first time this year. It is still cold here in Pennsylvania, but my kayaking buddies still want to do it. Pray I don’t get dunked, the water temp. is about 40 degrees and the stream that we are doing is spring feed. It has a lot of twists and turns and can be challenging in fast water, oh so much fun and it will add to my exercise plan. 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Look for a kayaking club, I bet that the person that is giving the classes will know where there are some. They have really good trips that usually don’t cost anything if you have a kayak. I bought my second hand off someone who wanted to upgrade for $300. paddle, shirt, and boat for a Rascal, this was a good price considering they cost about $600. new. Mine was like new wasn’t used all that much. Look around for one in the paper or from a club member who wants to buy a different kind. My husband, who worry that I might drown, bought me a really good not cheap life vest made for kayaking for my birthday. These are a little shorter than the one’s you use for regular boating. Roxan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was actually thinking of joining the class on my own, but you bring up an important point.  In reality, it would be foolish to go alone!  My son is an Eagle Scout and one thing they drummed into the boys is to "buddy up." It would be a long time before I tried any wild water, too.  I suppose they make better jackets than they used to:  the ones we have always chafe my neck, but they are better than the old "Mae West" style. No free classes around here, but I might get a discount because I work for the college.  The classes aren’t too awful expensive, anyway. kat ^.^< I never go kayaking alone, too dangerous and never without a life jacket. There are kayaking clubs in my area that give free courses. My husband is getting interested enough to want to try to do it. If he does he will be hooked too. Roxan I was hooked on a five-minute ride in flat water when a couple of kayakers rolled up to the shore and, seeing me gawk, asked if I wanted to have a go. Three strokes and I was hooked.  Had to turn back almost immediately because a riverboat (yes, paddles and all) was coming upstream and I was between it and the dock! I could go alone, that isn’t a problem, but it is fun to have someone to talk with later.  But I asked my daughter if she wanted to sign up with me, but she has to many classes in firefighting this summer (she hopes to join the local boys).  That leaves my son, my ww buddy, and a few other unsuspecting folks… kat ^.^< I learned by going out with a friend. The first trip we did a large river here, I got caught in a thunder storm, but got hooked the first time I did it. It really isn’t hard to do, I like to run in fast water and small dams. It is challenging and so much fun, take a change and do it. It is a great way to add exercise to your program and have a wonderful time in the process. Let me know if you take the plunge and learn to kayak Roxan. Three newsgroup readers and I can’t get a message.  Harrumph.  So I rootled around in the one that DID catch this message (but absolutely refuses to allow me to answer), and had to put it in as a new message, sorta. Roxan, although he is the outdoorsman, I think that is what I am going to do.  We have a class in kayaking at the college where I work, and I just have to register.  Maybe he will try it out anyway.  He hates being limited; he can’t downhill or water ski, either.  Really bugs him.  At least we can play golf and the like together (I get the most turns!). kat ^.^< So, I hate to say this, leave him at home and go yourself. There is a group of us girls that leave our hubby at home and go without them. We all got tired of waiting till they were ready. It is very addicting, once bitten you will want to do it more often. I had a ball, but wouldn’t you know it, today it is beautiful and warm, yesterday cold and rainy, but we went anyway. Hope you get a chance to do it this summer. Roxan Great job Roxan– I hope to take a kayaking class this summer through the local college.  Went on a quick jaunt many years ago and knew immediately that I had better not do it again until I could do it often; I could feel the addiction kicking in!  We haven’t even camped or canoed in years–hubbie’s got a very bad back and can’t go for long jaunts. I should have more time this summer, being down to only two classes instead of a full load. — kat ^.^< My Norwegian-descended friends and I have a deal.  They don’t make me eat Lutefisk, I don’t make them eat grits. I am on my way to go kayaking for the first time this year. It is still cold here in Pennsylvania, but my kayaking buddies still want to do it. Pray I don’t get dunked, the water temp. is about 40 degrees and the stream that we are doing is spring feed. It has a lot of twists and turns and can be challenging in fast water, oh so much fun and it will add to my exercise plan. I will let you all know how I make out when I get back. Roxan — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—– —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—– —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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I was actually thinking of joining the class on my own, but you bring up an important point.  In reality, it would be foolish to go alone!  My son is an Eagle Scout and one thing they drummed into the boys is to "buddy up." It would be a long time before I tried any wild water, too.  I suppose they make better jackets than they used to:  the ones we have always chafe my neck, but they are better than the old "Mae West" style. No free classes around here, but I might get a discount because I work for the college.  The classes aren’t too awful expensive, anyway. kat ^.^<

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I never go kayaking alone, too dangerous and never without a life jacket. There are kayaking clubs in my area that give free courses. My husband is getting interested enough to want to try to do it. If he does he will be hooked too. Roxan I was hooked on a five-minute ride in flat water when a couple of kayakers rolled up to the shore and, seeing me gawk, asked if I wanted to have a go. Three strokes and I was hooked.  Had to turn back almost immediately because a riverboat (yes, paddles and all) was coming upstream and I was between it and the dock! I could go alone, that isn’t a problem, but it is fun to have someone to talk with later.  But I asked my daughter if she wanted to sign up with me, but she has to many classes in firefighting this summer (she hopes to join the local boys).  That leaves my son, my ww buddy, and a few other unsuspecting folks… kat ^.^< I learned by going out with a friend. The first trip we did a large river here, I got caught in a thunder storm, but got hooked the first time I did it. It really isn’t hard to do, I like to run in fast water and small dams. It is challenging and so much fun, take a change and do it. It is a great way to add exercise to your program and have a wonderful time in the process. Let me know if you take the plunge and learn to kayak Roxan. Three newsgroup readers and I can’t get a message.  Harrumph.  So I rootled around in the one that DID catch this message (but absolutely refuses to allow me to answer), and had to put it in as a new message, sorta. Roxan, although he is the outdoorsman, I think that is what I am going to do.  We have a class in kayaking at the college where I work, and I just have to register.  Maybe he will try it out anyway.  He hates being limited; he can’t downhill or water ski, either.  Really bugs him.  At least we can play golf and the like together (I get the most turns!). kat ^.^< So, I hate to say this, leave him at home and go yourself. There is a group of us girls that leave our hubby at home and go without them. We all got tired of waiting till they were ready. It is very addicting, once bitten you will want to do it more often. I had a ball, but wouldn’t you know it, today it is beautiful and warm, yesterday cold and rainy, but we went anyway. Hope you get a chance to do it this summer. Roxan Great job Roxan– I hope to take a kayaking class this summer through the local college.  Went on a quick jaunt many years ago and knew immediately that I had better not do it again until I could do it often; I could feel the addiction kicking in!  We haven’t even camped or canoed in years–hubbie’s got a very bad back and can’t go for long jaunts.  I should have more time this summer, being down to only two classes instead of a full load. — kat ^.^< My Norwegian-descended friends and I have a deal.  They don’t make me eat Lutefisk, I don’t make them eat grits. I am on my way to go kayaking for the first time this year. It is still cold here in Pennsylvania, but my kayaking buddies still want to do it. Pray I don’t get dunked, the water temp. is about 40 degrees and the stream that we are doing is spring feed. It has a lot of twists and turns and can be challenging in fast water, oh so much fun and it will add to my exercise plan. I will let you all know how I make out when I get back. Roxan — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—– —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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It sounds like great fun!!!  I am jealous!  Although, I sure wouldn’t wish a cold dunk!! Doe I am on my way to go kayaking for the first time this year. It is still cold here in Pennsylvania, but my kayaking buddies still want to do it. Pray I don’t get dunked, the water temp. is about 40 degrees and the stream that we are doing is spring feed. It has a lot of twists and turns and can be challenging in fast water, oh so much fun and it will add to my exercise plan. I will let you all know how I make out when I get back. Roxan —

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We have several friends that enjoy kayaking. . . . we live next to a state park that have a nice little lake and we go camping as a group and they enjoy kayaking on the lake. . . . I’ve never really tried it (kinda looks like I could turn over in one of those things, ya know??).  Maybe I’ll have to get braver this summer and try kayaking. . . Cy Fan (Karen)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am on my way to go kayaking for the first time this year. It is still cold here in Pennsylvania, but my kayaking buddies still want to do it. Pray I don’t get dunked, the water temp. is about 40 degrees and the stream that we are doing is spring feed. It has a lot of twists and turns and can be challenging in fast water, oh so much fun and it will add to my exercise plan. I will let you all know how I make out when I get back. Roxan —

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Three newsgroup readers and I can’t get a message.  Harrumph.  So I rootled around in the one that DID catch this message (but absolutely refuses to allow me to answer), and had to put it in as a new message, sorta. Roxan, although he is the outdoorsman, I think that is what I am going to do.  We have a class in kayaking at the college where I work, and I just have to register.  Maybe he will try it out anyway.  He hates being limited; he can’t downhill or water ski, either.  Really bugs him.  At least we can play golf and the like together (I get the most turns!). kat ^.^< So, I hate to say this, leave him at home and go yourself. There is a group of us girls that leave our hubby at home and go without them. We all got tired of waiting till they were ready. It is very addicting, once bitten you will want to do it more often. I had a ball, but wouldn’t you know it, today it is beautiful and warm, yesterday cold and rainy, but we went anyway. Hope you get a chance to do it this summer. Roxan

Great job Roxan– I hope to take a kayaking class this summer through the local college.  Went on a quick jaunt many years ago and knew immediately that I had better not do it again until I could do it often; I could feel the addiction kicking in!  We haven’t even camped or canoed in years–hubbie’s got a very bad back and can’t go for long jaunts.  I should have more time this summer, being down to only two classes instead of a full load. — kat ^.^< My Norwegian-descended friends and I have a deal.  They don’t make me eat Lutefisk, I don’t make them eat grits. I am on my way to go kayaking for the first time this year. It is still cold here in Pennsylvania, but my kayaking buddies still want to do it. Pray I don’t get dunked, the water temp. is about 40 degrees and the stream that we are doing is spring feed. It has a lot of twists and turns and can be challenging in fast water, oh so much fun and it will add to my exercise plan. I will let you all know how I make out when I get back. Roxan —

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Love to Andy, you could beach it in Manhattan and carry it on your head to work, this could be both your aerobic and upper body workout. Boy are my are sore now. Next time you can come along it really is a nice way to see nature. Can’t wait to go again. Roxan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – take me with you next time…  better yet, i’d like to work out some way of kayaking or crewing to work.  it’s technically feasible; i could hand launch from east 23rd street and swing around and up the hudson, but there’s no parking (just like most of manhattan) for the little guys anywhere near where i would have to beach. —andy the schismatic 248/177/187 Well, I made it, a little muddy and tired, but it was really fun. There were six of us and we did about 10 miles of beautiful water way. The water is a little high now and fast running, my arms are killing me and I will be sore tomorrow, but all in all a wonderful time. Roxan I am on my way to go kayaking for the first time this year. It is still cold here in Pennsylvania, but my kayaking buddies still want to do it. Pray I don’t get dunked, the water temp. is about 40 degrees and the stream that we are doing is spring feed. It has a lot of twists and turns and can be challenging in fast water, oh so much fun and it will add to my exercise plan. I will let you all know how I make out when I get back. Roxan —

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Great job Roxan– I hope to take a kayaking class this summer through the local college.  Went on a quick jaunt many years ago and knew immediately that I had better not do it again until I could do it often; I could feel the addiction kicking in!  We haven’t even camped or canoed in years–hubbie’s got a very bad back and can’t go for long jaunts.  I should have more time this summer, being down to only two classes instead of a full load. — kat ^.^< My Norwegian-descended friends and I have a deal.  They don’t make me eat Lutefisk, I don’t make them eat grits.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, I made it, a little muddy and tired, but it was really fun. There were six of us and we did about 10 miles of beautiful water way. The water is a little high now and fast running, my arms are killing me and I will be sore tomorrow, but all in all a wonderful time. Roxan I am on my way to go kayaking for the first time this year. It is still cold here in Pennsylvania, but my kayaking buddies still want to do it. Pray I don’t get dunked, the water temp. is about 40 degrees and the stream that we are doing is spring feed. It has a lot of twists and turns and can be challenging in fast water, oh so much fun and it will add to my exercise plan. I will let you all know how I make out when I get back. Roxan —

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So, I hate to say this, leave him at home and go yourself. There is a group of us girls that leave our hubby at home and go without them. We all got tired of waiting till they were ready. It is very addicting, once bitten you will want to do it more often. I had a ball, but wouldn’t you know it, today it is beautiful and warm, yesterday cold and rainy, but we went anyway. Hope you get a chance to do it this summer. Roxan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Great job Roxan– I hope to take a kayaking class this summer through the local college.  Went on a quick jaunt many years ago and knew immediately that I had better not do it again until I could do it often; I could feel the addiction kicking in!  We haven’t even camped or canoed in years–hubbie’s got a very bad back and can’t go for long jaunts.  I should have more time this summer, being down to only two classes instead of a full load. — kat ^.^< My Norwegian-descended friends and I have a deal.  They don’t make me eat Lutefisk, I don’t make them eat grits. Well, I made it, a little muddy and tired, but it was really fun. There were six of us and we did about 10 miles of beautiful water way. The water is a little high now and fast running, my arms are killing me and I will be sore tomorrow, but all in all a wonderful time. Roxan I am on my way to go kayaking for the first time this year. It is still cold here in Pennsylvania, but my kayaking buddies still want to do it. Pray I don’t get dunked, the water temp. is about 40 degrees and the stream that we are doing is spring feed. It has a lot of twists and turns and can be challenging in fast water, oh so much fun and it will add to my exercise plan. I will let you all know how I make out when I get back. Roxan — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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I am on my way to go kayaking for the first time this year. It is still cold here in Pennsylvania, but my kayaking buddies still want to do it. Pray I don’t get dunked, the water temp. is about 40 degrees and the stream that we are doing is spring feed. It has a lot of twists and turns and can be challenging in fast water, oh so much fun and it will add to my exercise plan. I will let you all know how I make out when I get back. Roxan —

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Well, I made it, a little muddy and tired, but it was really fun. There were six of us and we did about 10 miles of beautiful water way. The water is a little high now and fast running, my arms are killing me and I will be sore tomorrow, but all in all a wonderful time. Roxan

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take me with you next time…  better yet, i’d like to work out some way of kayaking or crewing to work.  it’s technically feasible; i could hand launch from east 23rd street and swing around and up the hudson, but there’s no parking (just like most of manhattan) for the little guys anywhere near where i would have to beach. —andy the schismatic 248/177/187

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, I made it, a little muddy and tired, but it was really fun. There were six of us and we did about 10 miles of beautiful water way. The water is a little high now and fast running, my arms are killing me and I will be sore tomorrow, but all in all a wonderful time. Roxan I am on my way to go kayaking for the first time this year. It is still cold here in Pennsylvania, but my kayaking buddies still want to do it. Pray I don’t get dunked, the water temp. is about 40 degrees and the stream that we are doing is spring feed. It has a lot of twists and turns and can be challenging in fast water, oh so much fun and it will add to my exercise plan. I will let you all know how I make out when I get back. Roxan —

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going to thailand in 2 days, need some advice please folks….

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Hi Don – most points covered by other replies except to say that for certain "amenities and services" you have  booked into exactly the correct hotel for your 1st night!!!!!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, hope you are all keepin ok. i’m off to thailand on monday with a good friend of mine. this is our first time. we haven’t booked a hotel as of yet, and i dont think we will until we get to bangkok. whats the best place to go straight from bangkok airport. i want to to go to a secure hotel, where i can keep my money etc in a safe….. also i might be wearing a daypack throughout the day. however i have invested in a money belt, where i can keep my money passport in etc, i will wear this underneath my clothes……. is the idea of a daypack stupid… i have worn daypacks in my time in india, peru, goa and everywhere else really. i keep my guides, maps, books, disposable cameras in there…….never been a victim of theft. so can anyone give me any general advice on what to do or eat in thailand… regards Don ps: i’ve done a lot of research, and read up on stuff, was hoping any     experienced thailand travellers could give me some advice…. — Posted via http://britishexpats.com

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Hi Don, I think William pretty well covered most of it, but here is my piece that I put together for friends.  I recomment staying at the Grand President Hotel, on Sukhumvit Soi 11.  THey have individual safes in every room.  Great staff, great hotel and never had a problem at all when there( we stayed there about 10 times on and off) Make sure your back pack is secured, but have the keys readily available, there is no reason for them to rip your locks off, and if they are gone, you know someone has been through you bag and see airport security about it. Grand Palace (Sanam Chai) This is where the King used to reside.  It is very scenic.  There is also  Wat Phra Keo on the grounds.  Dress Code – No shorts or open shoes. Wat Pho (across road from Grand Palace) This is the most famous Wat in BKK.  A must to see.  Architecture and work is fantastic.  Can have your palm read here or get a Thai massage by one of the monks. Wat Arun(along Chao Phraya River) Take river cruise to get there Long Boat River Cruise (left of Sheraton River City) Get taxi to take you here.   There will be a small booth with a person that will organise the trip for you.  Barter the price.  You will board a long boat (be prepared to get a little wet at times) and they will take you for a ride up the river through the canals, to see how a lot of the locals live.  There will be women in floating boats (only a couple) trying to sell you things.  They sell trinkets and drinks (beer).  The driver will stop at the snake farm and also Wat Arun.  It is always nice to tip the driver THB50-100  - depending on how many people are with you. Floating Markets(Wat Sai) There are many permanent shops and plenty of people in small boats selling things.  Quite a big tourist attraction Chatuchak Weekend Markets (Phahon Yothin) You can take the Skytrain to the markets.  The train stops right outside the market. This is very big and very crowded, but you can get some incredible bargains here. Bridge Over The River Kwai (see hotel or travel agent) This is a 2 – 3 hour trip north of BKK.  On a tour you will leave about 6am and not return until 7pm.  It is a great trip, very touristy.  You can ride the train over death valley, board the train asap as everyone pushes and shoves to get on and you may miss out.  Don’t go in the first carriage as some times it is reserved and you’ll have to get off.  Try and get a private tour guide to take you, then you can go to the War Memorials as well. Jim Thompson House This is a house that belonged to a "silk king" millionaire that mysteriously disappeared in 1967.  It is a display of this private collection of antiques, silk etc. Lumpini Park (cnr Rama IV & Ratcharamri) – Nice for a stroll around or do some paddle boating in the lake in the middle.  They have an outdoor gym, aerobics and many other activities. This is the main Park and has a lot of greenery. Crocodile Farm (Samut Prakan Province) Here they do Crocodile wrestling and silly things like putting their heads in their mouths.  They also have elephant shows (with crowd participation), tigers, snakes etc.  Have small change to throw in to the Croc Pit. Patpong Road (off Silom) This is the Nightlife spot where all the "girly" bars are, where they have the "ping pong" shows.  There is a strip of them, make sure there is no cover charge to go in.  The women flock to the men as soon as you get in there.  They will massage your shoulders, hands, whatever.  Then they will ask you to buy them a drink.  If you buy them one they will come back for more.  If you are not interested tell them to go away.  It can be a real eye opener.  When we went to one bar, there were people having sex next to us on the chair.  We soon left.  It is very crowded around this area and is absolute chaos at times. Thai Boxing They have boxing at Lumpini Park and there is another major stadium, but I can

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What a great idea! Not for me, though. Unless the bikes have air-con….and motors! :) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you really want some great adventure and get a great feel of Bangkok try http://www.amazingbangkokcyclist.com/index.html They give bicycle tours, I have gone 2 times and it was great. Not expensive, they provide the bikes, not to strenuous for the somewhat out of shape. You won’t regret it. (No, I’m not affiliated with them in anyway, just a happy customer) I’ll be there in November and will most likely take another ride with them then. My family, wife and myself with two teens will fly in to Bangkok either in November or December for a week. Our first time there on our own. Question is we like to go shopping, site seeing and of course eat eat eat. Any recommendation for Hotels US$30 to US40 per twin room sharing. Must be safe to stay. Online booking? Is it ok to stay in more than one hotel. 3 nights and 4 nights. Any places for siteseeing.. say day trip? Any shopping places, night markets near-by hotels. Eat…no need to elaborate.. Thank you. Allan

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If you really want some great adventure and get a great feel of Bangkok try http://www.amazingbangkokcyclist.com/index.html They give bicycle tours, I have gone 2 times and it was great. Not expensive, they provide the bikes, not to strenuous for the somewhat out of shape. You won’t regret it. (No, I’m not affiliated with them in anyway, just a happy customer) I’ll be there in November and will most likely take another ride with them then.

I can’t vouch for this vendor. However I’ve been on bicycle tours several times in several countries (not Thailand, though). Hell of a way to see the country. I’d be a little concerned about safety for cyclists on some roads. I’d also make sure they have a full complement of support equipment including First Aid and Sag Wagons. If they do (and you have the energy) I think this would be a great suggestion.

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The original operator was a Dutchman named Ko Van Kessel, he was (and still may be) a 25 year resident of BKK and knew the city like the back of his hand. Most of the ride is on the back streets, alleyways, markets, along the Klongs, and so on. I believe we crossed only one main street on both of the rides I took. We also loaded our bikes and crossed the river in one of the fan tail boats. I believe the new operator’s name is Michael but I have not gone on a ride since he took over. They did not have a sag wagon but it really is a relaxed pace with plenty of stops. The operator purchases all the drinks and provides lunch also. Hope this helps.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you really want some great adventure and get a great feel of Bangkok try http://www.amazingbangkokcyclist.com/index.html They give bicycle tours, I have gone 2 times and it was great. Not expensive, they provide the bikes, not to strenuous for the somewhat out of shape. You won’t regret it. (No, I’m not affiliated with them in anyway, just a happy customer) I’ll be there in November and will most likely take another ride with them then. I can’t vouch for this vendor. However I’ve been on bicycle tours several times in several countries (not Thailand, though). Hell of a way to see the country. I’d be a little concerned about safety for cyclists on some roads. I’d also make sure they have a full complement of support equipment including First Aid and Sag Wagons. If they do (and you have the energy) I think this would be a great suggestion.

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I can’t vouch for this vendor. However I’ve been on bicycle tours several times in several countries (not Thailand, though).

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If you really want some great adventure and get a great feel of Bangkok try http://www.amazingbangkokcyclist.com/index.html They give bicycle tours, I have gone 2 times and it was great. Not expensive, they provide the bikes, not to strenuous for the somewhat out of shape. You won’t regret it. (No, I’m not affiliated with them in anyway, just a happy customer) I’ll be there in November and will most likely take another ride with them then.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My family, wife and myself with two teens will fly in to Bangkok either in November or December for a week. Our first time there on our own. Question is we like to go shopping, site seeing and of course eat eat eat. Any recommendation for Hotels US$30 to US40 per twin room sharing. Must be safe to stay. Online booking? Is it ok to stay in more than one hotel. 3 nights and 4 nights. Any places for siteseeing.. say day trip? Any shopping places, night markets near-by hotels. Eat…no need to elaborate.. Thank you. Allan

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Hi I also can recommend the Asia Hotel.  Stayed there last year and am going back there in two weeks time — Evelyn

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Before we moved there we stayed at Grand President Hotel.  They are more serviced apartments than a hotel.  Great staff, great hotel and great atmosphere.  I would recommend it highly, but not sure that you will get it in your price range.  We had a 2br suite and I think it was around $US100 a night.Make sure that you want a 2 bed room as most of them are just one bed. Grand Palace (Sanam Chai) This is where the King used to reside.  It is very scenic.  There is also  Wat Phra Keo on the grounds.  Dress Code – No shorts or open shoes. Wat Pho (across road from Grand Palace) This is the most famous Wat in BKK.  A must to see.  Architecture and work is fantastic.  Can have your palm read here or get a Thai massage by one of the monks. Wat Arun(along Chao Phraya River) Take river cruise to get there Long Boat River Cruise (left of Sheraton River City) Get taxi to take you here.   There will be a small booth with a person that will organise the trip for you.  Barter the price.  You will board a long boat (be prepared to get a little wet at times) and they will take you for a ride up the river through the canals, to see how a lot of the locals live.  There will be women in floating boats (only a couple) trying to sell you things.  They sell trinkets and drinks (beer).  The driver will stop at the snake farm and also Wat Arun.  It is always nice to tip the driver THB50-100  - depending on how many people are with you. Floating Markets(Wat Sai) There are many permanent shops and plenty of people in small boats selling things.  Quite a big tourist attraction Chatuchak Weekend Markets (Phahon Yothin) You can take the Skytrain to the markets.  The train stops right outside the market. This is very big and very crowded, but you can get some incredible bargains here – watch for pick pockets. Bridge Over The River Kwai (see hotel or travel agent) This is a 2 – 3 hour trip north of BKK.  On a tour you will leave about 6am and not return until 7pm.  It is a great trip, very touristy.  You can ride the train over death valley, board the train asap as everyone pushes and shoves to get on and you may miss out.  Don’t go in the first carriage as some times it is reserved and you’ll have to get off.  Try and get a private tour guide to take you, then you can go to the War Memorials as well. Jim Thompson House This is a house that belonged to a "silk king" millionaire that mysteriously disappeared in 1967.  It is a display of this private collection of antiques, silk etc. Lumpini Park (cnr Rama IV & Ratcharamri) – Nice for a stroll around or do some paddle boating in the lake in the middle.  They have an outdoor gym, aerobics and many other activities. This is the main Park and has a lot of greenery. Crocodile Farm (Samut Prakan Province) Here they do Crocodile wrestling and silly things like putting their heads in their mouths.  They also have elephant shows (with crowd participation), tigers, snakes etc.  Have small change to throw in to the Croc Pit. Patpong Road (off Silom) This is the Nightlife spot where all the "girly" bars are, where they have the "ping pong" shows.  There is a strip of them, make sure there is no cover charge to go in.  The women flock to the men as soon as you get in there.  They will massage your shoulders, hands, whatever.  Then they will ask you to buy them a drink.  If you buy them one they will come back for more.  If you are not interested tell them to go away.  It can be a real eye opener.  When we went to one bar, there were people having sex next to us on the chair.  We soon left.  It is very crowded around this area and is absolute chaos at times. Thai Boxing They have boxing at Lumpini Park and there is another major stadium, but I can

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